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currer's avatar

May be slightly off topic for you Sally but I follow this writer "csofand" who is looking at statistics in the US. They show manipulation and erasure. This article by Dave Shohl is a good summary which may interest you.

https://david3m2yw.substack.com/p/monkey-business

Look at this;

"Csofand’s second finding was that the states whose pension funds were rated lowest in terms of solvency and financial performance had some of the highest death numbers from 2021 onwards."

"There was a reoccurring statistic that caught my attention … investment gains. Just as lots of members of these pension systems were officially dying off from “covid,” simultaneously the asset sheets were getting replenished with unheard of stock market gains. These two things were consistently popping up in tandem with the statistics from fiscal year 2021."

SuperSally888's avatar

I also follow Csofand. He like I is doing the task of recording what is happening with mortality. His pension data, and teacher data are stunning.

currer's avatar

*In the spring of 2020 there were some places in this country that saw very unseasonal increased mortality.

In the following year (fiscal year 2021) many of these same places had huge windfalls in their public employee pension plans due to historic investment gains [nearly 30% gains, amounting to billions of dollars per state].

These investment gains were happening simultaneously with additional increased member mortality into 2021 and beyond.

A look back at the solvency of these same state pension plans shows that many of these locations that had the strange 2020 spring death surge were in pretty bad financial shape in the years before the pandemic hit."

https://david3m2yw.substack.com/p/monkey-business

Warren Klein's avatar

"There were 188,156 deaths reported in 2025'

A long way from the 2015-19 average of 160k.

And no reductions following increases as previously happened after bad flu years. Where the drop back is caused by the earlier deaths, ie you can't die twice. I hope that makes sense.

SuperSally888's avatar

The population, particularly those aged middle age and older, was made more vulnerable to death from a factor that started in 2021. A step change in deaths. Globally.

Terri Newton's avatar

Good question. There is no pull back effect. This means that not only the vunerable died, and the cause of the excess mortality was never removed or recovered from.

With a pullback effect, a disease (or environmental assault) kills the most vulnerable. Deaths then drop until a new vunerable population has re-established

damon mcclure's avatar

Could the stabilisation in the young be due to the massive immigration mate?

SuperSally888's avatar

No, because these are deaths. I suspect that deaths in the very young are falling because births are going down. Australia's largest birth cohorts was in 2018. 7 years of declining births since then. I suspect that relatively lower very young death counts (even if infant mortality rates are up somewhat) are offsetting any slight rise in deaths in young adults. Deaths in young adults are typically very low, even now despite the intervention.. the anticipated drop in life expectancy (and increased deaths) likely does not show significantly until the 45+ cohorts.